Round mesh covers to fit 416-8b.

[Russnohio]

The pic below is staged. I staged it to demonstrate a near disaster. It is unlikely I'll ever make this mistake again. Out of the corner of my eye I could see the vaccum cleaner handle fall but could not get to it before it landed on top of the small speaker next to the M19. Although I was the one using the vaccum I must now remind my 22 year old daughter (only she & I live here) to ALWAYS be careful with the vaccum for obvious reasons. Gentlemen....I have decided that I am going to mount circular covers over my woofers! I do not have the original grills for these speakers and frankly, I don't want to build them. What I want to do is shop around for some of those covers like the ones shown on page 151 of my parts express catalog. I DO NOT want to alter the woofer in any way shape or form. I want to find some mesh covers that I can simply slip over the cork gasket. If need be I can alter the covers to fit nice & snug. I suppose that even if I did have the original grills I'd still want to find a pair of round covers as I like all that walnut showing and the appearence of covers over the woofer will not bother me at all, in fact I prefer it over grills. If anyone here has ever done this with a 416 woofer I'd appreciate hearing what you used, where you got it, etc. I suppose if I can't find a round cover that'l fit....then I'l have to do what I don't want to do....build lower grills to cover the whole thing. You're opinions are appreciated!



<font color="#FFFFFF" size="1">[ February 16, 2008 05:25 PM: Message edited by: Russnohio ]</font>

[Russnohio]

FWIW, the listings in the PE catalog indicate sizes of 15" & 18". Nothing 16"....or 15 1/2" which is exactly the measurment of the cork dia. I am going to go ahead and order a 15" set and see if I can modify them after looking them over. If it don't look like it'll work, guess I'll return them and start building grills.

[Sounder]

Russ,

I also wanted round covers for my 604, 15 in speakers. After looking for quite some time, the closest I could find are the ones you show in PE. Rather than buy them (since I did not care for the look), I made my own from two 18 inch round, pine platforms from Lowe's for $10 ea. Simply cut out the centers so that the "rims" fit snugly over the speakers. (I purchased the platforms since they had a rounded edge that I wasn't sure how to achieve.) After applying brown grill cloth, they look nice. For sturdiness, you could use a heftier cloth.

It would be great if someone came up with a stretchable speaker cover that slipped over the edges of the speaker (kinda like a shower cap). OR, better yet, a firm circle of foam with a rim extending over the edge of the speaker flange. Oh well........

John

[bfish]

I once used grills off of some cheapo BBQ grills...

Now I just don't vacuum...

Don't think you'll be too happy with those wide-strip basketweaves, they can be noisy. Unless you find some that say different, most won't fit over a big frame. The flange will sit on the gasket, but nothing some Velcro or magnets couldn't handle. They cost a little more, but a mesh cover is quiter;



Added;
If you check around the CARFI joints, you might find something local.

<font color="#FFFFFF" size="1">[ February 17, 2008 01:19 AM: Message edited by: bfish ]</font>

[Russnohio]

John, you just gave me a great idea! Thanks. A circular cover with CLOTH over it would indeed look much better than any kind of mesh. Of course, the mesh-work wether it is plastic or metal would be left alone as a barrier and covered over with the cloth. I'm going to pursue this idea in protecting the woofer while keeping the look of a "bare-fronted" M19.

Russ

[gamalot]

Under the catagory of "Stuff Happens" Russ, I never agree with unprotected woofers in a common room.

Here is what I did,



I just checked them and they will work perfect on the 416-8B in my 19s, these are PE Deluxe covers.
I would use some sticky back velcrow to affix the covers to the corks so you don't have to drill. The corks can be replaced if need be.

Gary

[Russnohio]

Those are very nice cabinets Gary. I've seen pics of other cabinets you've built but I don't recall seeing these ones. I was wondering where you mounted the H.F.Freq. controls but it appears that by peeking into the RH port you've mounted them in back. Makes sense. Again...you do VERY nice cabinet work Gary.
About the covers, Dave (dgwojo) gave me a good deal on some mesh covers he had on hand....so I don't have to shop around now! I am gong to experiment as to the best method to attach them so that in NO WAY will I have to alter anything on the cabinet or the woofers cork. My 416 woofer cork is factory perfect and I want to leave it that way. I am thinking of a way to cover the mesh-grill with some sort of cloth material (black or brown) simply for looks. The mesh covers don't look bad, but they do have a bit of that "stage-monitor" look that I can get away from by covering them in cloth. I know I'll figure it out.
Ok, I can understandably picture a bunch of other M19 owners with a full set of factory grills thinking: what a ridiculous amount of trouble! GET SOME PROPER GRILLS!.....well like I mentioned before I want all that beautiful walnut up front to show, and still protect the woofer cone. I appreciate the tips everyone! I believe its going to work out very well.


Russ